Livyatan is related to the sperm whale which has the thickest skin of any animal alive today meaning it will be hard for megalodon to penetrate its blubber. Megalodon is so overrated some people have even claimed that it is 75 ft and 100 tons. The new body size proportions fit well with research published last year, arguing that the scientifically justifiable maximum size for megalodon was around 50 feet (15 meters). For comparison, the fastest sharks today travel at 60 mph which is but not significantly. Leviathan would come up with plan b -even assuming plan a failed. I don’t think intelligence is a huge factor one on one. "56 km / h": you take it from the great white shark and you stick it directly to the megalodon. No account? Whales today travel at 25-35 mph when scared. It would be a close fight as they are the same size and preyed on similarly sized and in some cases the same animals. You must retrieve four items, which should not prove difficult for a shaman of your stature. Dolphins, including large dolphins like killer whales and pilot whales that confusingly have the word "whale" in their English names, are highly intelligent. spawn2 (51160, 0, 0, 2812,-771,-199, 146); --Ancient Megalodon: elseif (e. message: findi (" break down ") and qglobals[" shaman_epic "] == " 5 ") then: e. self: Say (" As most things, the process is not a simple one and we'll need some ingredients for a special potion. Even though these beasts had gone extinct long before modern humans were even around, there is still something in us that fears the deep abyss of the open ocean, and what may lurk in its depths. but most of the time the winner goes to livyatan just because it can most likely 1. dive a few hundred meters deeper due to thick blubber .2 the livyatan would not give the un-intelligent megalodon time to think out its attack .3 livyatan likely had an upper hand on different ways to intercept the attack like for example the megalodon is closer to the surface so the livyatan will be smart and have time to use what ever current advantage it has over the megalodon. Sharks have no true bones, only cartilage. i have been studying about prehistoric marine life for years and i know who would LIKELY win the battle, This is funny how they only found a tooth for the shark and assumed it was bigger,there's no shark in history that can be proving to be bigger then any sperm whale,todays sharks won't even attempt to hunt a mordern day sperm whale,what think back then a shark would,the shark is not even top predator today,it's the killer whale,lavyatan was bigger smarter then a megalodon,which they only found teeth of the shark they calling the king of the prehistoric ocean,bull shit,y'all give that shark to much false story's,if it was the top predator back then,how come it's not now,and then they down play the whales size and length,lavyatan was bigger and longer then the mordern day sperm whale,not just alil bigger,cause if that was the case,lavyatan would still be here,how you only find Meg's teeth and find lavyatan skull and teeth and then say some bull shit like, the shark was this big and that long and it was top predator,you would think they would know more about the lavyatan then the shark, lavyatan wins hands down all the way,it's common sense people. livayatan would win because it has the biggest teeth of all animals and intelligent than all ocean predator. Some animals, such as elephants, have longer tusks, but Livyatan’s teeth were built for action. Most will think the megalodon would win because it has been stereotyped to be SUPER powerful. Cetaceans rival apes and elephants in intelligence, and while sharks are smart for fish, they still are less intelligent than Livyatan, but in a direct fight with no prep, intelligence doesn’t really help as if they could actually use all their intelligence in this hypothetical situation then the loser would anticipate who would win and flee. During the Miocene Epoch, some 13 million years ago, they competed for the same food and the same turf. This would leave the megalodon totally out of it's depth (pun intended) and it would be taken out quickly. but it is not always matter the number of livyatans that it takes win but the fact that the livyatan can dive to deeper depths due to thick blubber and jet the upper hand on an attack both animals could most certainly kill each other in one bite. Considering megalodon preferred smaller whales, it is likely it would be difficult for it to catch the greater whale species. It is after hours of studying that I have come to this conclusion. So who would have been the top predator of the ancient oceans? ummmm wahw they have the same length and weight 50 and 50 tonnes. 3. Despite its fame in pop-culture, surprisingly little is known about the life-appearance of the megalodon. Growing to nearly 60 feet long and weighing up to 50 tons, this was a whale to be reckoned with. To go along with its 7-inch serrated teeth, it had the strongest bite force of any animal ever known and was much more powerful than even the biggest dinosaurs. Baboons have high intelligence, yet are preyed upon by leopards so intelligence wont be the deciding factor. what you don't realize is the thickness of the Megalodon's jaws to the Livyatan's. however, if levyatan could get a bite in first, it would win because levyatans go for the spine and back, and the megaladon would not be able to move. Really in a fight only intelligence and speed would be effective. In reality, they were most likely about the same size. So, depending on the circumstances, it’s easy to see each of these monsters getting the better of the other. Level 1 - Everquest Chat, Trade, and BS. Its teeth were almost twice the size of Megalodon’s, and if it was like whales of today it was a more agile swimmer. Whatever the reasons, other marine creatures would go on to fill to niches left by the demise of these prehistoric sea monsters. While we can assume that full-on fighting wasn’t in the best interest of either creature and probably occurred very rarely, the nod seems to go to Megalodon in this case. plus the livyatan was about the same size as the megalodon. Oh I forgot it says no links because it promotes other sites. Intelligence is more of a factor when it comes to fights with multiple opponents, but even then sheer brute force still comes out on top. the whale need air and while the whale have air,megalodon bite it body and then the whale tries to attack but it was too late.The whale sink and die. Larger whales were on the menu too, including ancient relatives of the massive Blue Whale. I like both, but I've liked sharks my entire life and just because I like it more, I'm gonna say the Megalodon pulls of the victory. Again, it's probably 50/50 chance for both. Livyatan might have used the aforementioned head-butting technique to clobber bigger prey items into submission, but it most likely stuck to smaller victims. When I knew that the livyathan's skin layer, being a close cousin of the sperm whale, was very thick, all my opinion concerning the victory of the megalodon disappeared. leviathan will bite megs gills and meg is now a meatloaf. Although if the Livyatan could get a bite on the gills of the shark it will be hard for it to though, due to the fact the Megalodn's speed would counter that attack really easily. Fin, blue, sei, southern right, bowhead, and possibly humpback whales could all probably survive a single bite from a megalodon. For comparison, I've found encephalization quotient values of 2.2-2.5 for chimpanzees, 2.57-3.3 for orcas, various values ranging from 4.14 to 5.31 for bottlenose dolphins and 7.4-7.8 for humans. I think Leviathan wins due to present day evidence of similar interactions between great whites and orcas. "Livyatan probably had a pod of up to around 5-20 whales much like modern pods.". People assuming the Meg is bigger than Livyatan are operating on sheer speculation. Since it's a shark it's faster and more agile than the whale. it is bigger stronger and has a quicker speed. the tooth size only matters for the actual bite as it will help its strength. I would say this is a close fight, but I think Megalodon wins because of its girth and bite force. I don’t see how intelligence will be the most important factor. Ask any whale or hippo researcher and they will not agree. The livyatan would probably win by a small margin not because of brains or agility but because of stronger bones, blubber armor, and a head ram. The whales would use tactics to encircle the megalodon, and they would all attack at once with their sonar communications. August 18, 2020 . They said megalodon because it had a stronger bite force and more robust body so If livytan rammed megalodon could endure the hit and I'm a smart biologist man so believe me so megalodon win 51 % of the time livyatan 49% of the time. However it got it done, this massive whale was a king in the ancient ocean, with the size and weaponry necessary to take on any adversary. You should know that the studied top speed of a white shark is 56 km / h, however, we rarely observe a great white shark exceeding 40 km / h in ambush. Megalodon uses its teeth which are sharp like a sword(i know swords are better in most situations but only cause it’s fast to parry but a shark can’t parry a whales blowing I’m only comparing the offensive capabilities because you can’t block with teeth or tails). – Hits 1200+ – Casts Tugging Whirlpool (PBAE, Spinstun, -750 HP/tick, Unresistable) 2) Give the Lustrous Seaweed to Kimm McShannel to receive Twine-Wrapped Lustrous Seaweed. Megalodon had its bite force (which is useless if it doesn't get to bite the whale). Whales were also smaller back then, whale sizes increased during the time of megalodons extinction so larger whales might’ve been harder for the megalodon to catch. Livyatan hunted closer to the surface of the water so would be faster. If these apex predators came together to fight, bite force won't be very useful, however, the megalodon has a speed that is much higher than the leviathan, and the leviathan has an intellect a megalodon never had. 1 Crafting 1.1 Used in 2 Drop Chance List 3 Notes The following table displays the chances and quantities that each enemy will drop Depth Cells after Calamitas has been … the leviathans intellect will only drive its instinct to run away, which it will fail miserably because of the megalodons speed. This means megalodon won’t be able to penetrate the sperm whales or livyatans armor. Surely there was no prehistoric beasty large and powerful enough to present a challenge for Livyatan, the Leviathan of the deep. It was smarter, bigger, and that's not to mention the Livyatan's tooth size (over a FOOT long). A smart man will lose to a trained, strong man. the LIKELY winner of this battle is the livyatan. As a whale, it probably had echolocation too. The megalodon is an ambush predator like the great white shark, and from what we know, the great white shark, if the animal is similar in size or 2/3 its size (and depending on the angle), it will instinctively opt for a first attack aimed at knocking out or fracturing its prey in order to avoid potential unnecessary injury, the second attack will be less frontal and direct. If Livyatan were to zero in on a moderately sized Megalodon and decide it wanted lunch it seems there would be little the shark could do to save itself. They have long tails, which they use to slap the water or create mini-whirlpools around smaller fishes, confusing them and making them easy prey. and meg can't one shot leviathan in half. and leviathan is 17.5 meters and 60 tonnes. This concludes that the megalodon will 100% dominate the battle. Swallow - A single target 14k DoT with stun. If a solitary megalodon came up against a pod of these whales, then the intelligence of the levyatan would mean that it would win. If it is over 13 Livy can still kill it by ramming or biting its belly. About Us Starting out as a YouTube channel making Minecraft Adventure Maps, Hypixel is now one of the largest and highest quality Minecraft Server Networks in the world, featuring original games such as The Walls, Mega Walls, Blitz Survival Games, and many more! Let’s take a closer look at each of these prehistoric sea monsters. Actually sperm whales and Livyatan are not the only cetaceans with thick skin. Megalodon would just win easily with the livyatan because megalodon have the strongest bite force and it was bigger than livyatan, Well it is hard to claim who is the winner. Does anyone here know exactly how thick megalodons hide was? Oh and to livyatan meg is right they were both 18 metres(60 feet). These were apex predators with equal strengths and some advantages and disadvantages for both animals. - A safe spot to camp. True Fellowship - An Everquest Guild. But why did these monsters die off when other sea creatures of the same time flourished? Been trying for days, I 'ave, to get 'im to make some sense about this megalodon creature 'e keeps prattling on about. There nothing to eat there considering how much meat it needs to survive and it’d get cold or get crushed by pressure. According to the encephalization quotient(eq) system for determining intelligence, whales dumb dolphins smart. However, many other whales are only averagely intelligent for mammals and not much more intelligent than great whites. either of these relatives both work in pods for self defense. Melville's sea monster may have been fictional, but a huge predatory whale called Livyatan did once stalk the world's oceans, along with the massive Megalodon shark. Watch yerself. Livyatan, which you and I believe to be more powerful than the megalodon, has not been confirmed to have hunted any of the greater whale species and would usually consume whales about as long as 25 ft. Hail, a fire beetle. The Livyatan would win because the Meg went extinct while the sperm whales still exist. - PH spawn location(s). So megalodon was depicted as a very big white shark with length estimates ranging from 80-100 feet (25-30 meters). Lustrous seaweed. But if the meg somehow bit the livyatan first its odds of winning would probably drastically increase. While it is highly improbable that a remnant population of Megalodon sharks still exists somewhere in the world, what is certain is that this massive predator once ruled the ancient oceans. Depends who gets a bite in first. So, they changed the name to the Hebrew spelling. In a one-on-one fight, that intelligence advantage wouldn't count for much. megalodons are faster. And, when they met face to face, which of these fearsome giants yielded to the other? by Perone Greenhelm » Feb 08, 2007. I say its 50/50 who knows? Once they became bigger, faster and able to go to colder climates megalodon and Livyatan went extinct so in the evolutionary battle the true winner are modern whales who won just by moving to the Artic. leviathan would be too hard for meg to win and colossal squids which grow up to 22 meters or sperm whales up to 19 meters or liopleurodon which can grow up to 26 meters all beat meg (meg grows up to 18 meters). Give lustrous seaweed … There is some debate over whether it is closely related to the Great White, or whether it was the last in a lineage of giant toothed sharks. Sharks have only a cartilaginous skeleton that quickly decays after death, only their hard teeth survive the long and ardeous fossilization process. An ancient enchanted tome; An Ancient Fungoid; An Ancient Void-Touched Wumpus; An aqueous protector (Veksar: The Sunken Theater) ... Megalodon; Meldrath Kloktik; Memnmamar Marrowgut; Miragul (Named) Next Last ... EverQuest 2 Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. while livyatan was maybe only about 10 km slower but the whale was about 3 times as intelligent, The Livyathan Melvillei was not bigger then the Megalodon they were the same. The leviathan’s bite force is mike tyson’s punch while the megalodon’s is mikes bite. No MEGALODON because strongest bite in wourld, MEGALODON FANS LIKE ME, I AM SO SORRY BUT LIVEATHAN WINS BECAUSE ITS MUCH MORE SMARTER:(. Whales are smarter because they can communicate and socialize better than sharks but not because they can "hunt better" and the same goes for dolphins. I don,t think the megalodon lose because the megalodon is bigger.P.S. I'd say the Megalodon sometimes manages to get a calf before being driven off and sometimes doesn't but rarely kills an adult female and is rarely killed by the pod of adult females. That’s how whales escape orcas. Megalodon Hide Sash; Megaladon Tooth Fragment; Common Visible: Chest; Spells / abilities: Mutilate - A single target 28k DD with 75% melee slow and DEX, AGI, STA and STR debuff. This match up is similar to a man with an anti-tank weapon against an armored vehicle. These whales grew to about 15 feet in length and weighed around a ton. However, in marine mammals, we do not have this same observation, because there is not this factor weight / expenditure so important, moreover, if we take cacholot, having a slower metabolism to live under a great pressure to low temperature, it is still capable of reaching 40 km / h in peak, while the Lyviathan, an active surface predator, like the orca, could reach very high speed (+50 km / h surely) . megaladons liked to to bite the fins of large whales, so they can't move. Whales were much smaller at the time of the megalodon. Sharks most impressive prey would be the humpback whale but it was only 19 ft and unhealthy and tangled and injured by a fishing net and it was two sharks so im pretty sure that’s enough to prove it was a circumstantial victory. Orcas hunt in pods, are bigger, stronger, faster and way more intelligence, not that intelligence matters because that's like saying a physicist could beat up a trained MMA fighter. The leviathan in no way is shaped to keep up the pace in corners in its deadly charge. Let’s compare the closest modern animals. so it really is 50/50. Once 9 sperm whales fought slightly over thirty orcas(the most intelligent non human animals), the orcas were only able to kill one before being forced to flee despite outnumbering their adversaries by a factor of 3. so its 50/50. Ancient Megalodon for Aator. Megalodon bit the tales and fins of its prey instead of biting it directly because it can’t penetrate its blubber. I graduated in 2007 with a project studying how permafrost, that´s frozen soil, is reacting to the more visible recent changes of the alpine environment. No matter how you spell it, leviathan is a word that describes this monster quite accurately. Although contested by mainstream science, there are some cryptozoologists who believe the Megalodon shark could still be alive today, perhaps in the deeper parts of the ocean. 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